STOP PRESS, THE TRO INQUIRY INSPECTOR DECIDED WE COULD ALL STILL PARK ON THE DROVES, WELL DONE EVERYONE, OUR EFFORTS WERE NOT IN VAIN!
Please Note, STONEHENGE INQUIRIES WILL BE HELD
22 JUNE 2011 - SEE FORUM LINK
Objections and representations can still be entered regarding the forthcoming "Non statutory public inquiry"
[see TRO Objections and Representations box below]
NEW VISITOR CENTRE WAS APPROVED JUNE 2010 SUBJECT TO MANY CONDITIONS & TRO APPROVAL BY INQUIRY check the Forum link above regarding the list of conditions to be met by English Heritage
This is the infomation from 2009-2010 and story so far.
Peter Ridal of Halcrow Group informed us that the application is out to public consultation and is now online at WILTSHIRE COUNCIL website - the applicant,Loraine Knowles, is a regional director at EH Bristol. These plans are expected to be approved and the building works completed by 2012 when the Olympics open in London.
Objections regarding access and transport provision may cause delays, and public consultation period takes information to the planning department and they decide if a planning inquiry is required. Contact Mr A Madge who is the Case Officer at Salisbury Council and note [Salisbury planning is now part of Wilts Dept]:
Application received on 5 October 2009 Ref: No S/2009/1527
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Application registered on 13 October 2009
Public consultation started 13 October 2009 and ends 12 November 2009
Decision 20 January 2010 - see Visitor Centre note below for further info
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PUBLIC CONSULTATION HAS NOW CEASED -
THERE WAS/IS A LEGAL CHALLENGE TO THE DECISION TO APPROVE
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Visitor Centre - there was a meeting on 20 Jan 2010 and the Development Officer spoken to this morning said the Council Members were minded to approve the Visitor Centre application subject to some issues relating to an ecology issue raised by Stonehenge Alliance and subject to the terms of the Heads of Agreement - once those have been satisfied it will be delegated for final approval.
Concerning the issues we have regarding parking, access during hours of darkness when the VC will be closed, it was suggested we reiterate these back to Adam Madge in order that they be applied to consideration under Condition 6 - Visitor Management Strategy.
Some have suggested petitions, but time for those has passed - we need to strongly re-present the reasons again why the TRO [Traffic Regulatory Order] which is now going to be in place will prevent us being able to park in the hours of darkness for differing reasons and being made to be in the same car park as paying visitors will mean we will not be able to rest before driving home [logistically they will arrive noisily as we are finishing ceremonies etc]
Copy and paste what you sent in before and send them off relating to the VMS to Adam Madge at Salisbury Planning Dept amadgeATsalisbury.gov.uk
Summary by Andraste of 29 pages of answers to the Objections on the TRO document = mostly the same theme but some interesting items to note that:
1. We were told today by the Development controllers that the car park MAY remain open at night as the Councillors noted the comments about darkness and the restriction has been lifted.
2. Both the TRO and the Visitor Centre applications will now go into the public arena, be sent to the press and further consultations will ensue. About six weeks of further opportunity to object will follow.
3. The Salisbury and Wilts councils know via their Risk Assessment in the TRO document that [because of the precedent which I found, and they know exists but have not mentioned re Yorkshire Dales] there is likely to be individual or group actions to demand either a public inquiry or oppose whatever an Inspector decides.
4. The TRO doc states that EH undertakes to open the centre for ceremonial times and dates and will provide permits.
5. The TRO doc states that EH is able to charge for the car park and the train if visitors are NOT using the Centre.
So, all is not lost yet, by any manner of means judging by the number of Objections from other organisations not least of which is Amesbury Council!
See Stonehenge Inquiries
for overview & SCROLL DOWN FOR MAP OF DROVES
TRO OBJECTIONS AND
History so far:
A TRAFFIC REGULATORY ORDER IS BEING APPLIED FOR BY WILTS CC ON ALL THE BYWAYS OF THE WORLD HERITAGE SITE OF STONEHENGE = NO VEHICLES WILL BE ALLOWED TO PARK WHEN IN FORCE.
THIS WILL AFFECT ALL WHO VISIT STONEHENGE ESPECIALLY FOR CEREMONIES AT DAWN AND SUNSET, OUTSIDE OF NORMAL VISITING HOURS OR AT NIGHT FOR CEREMONIAL, ENVIRONMENTAL OR ASTRONOMICAL PURPOSES: USUAL DAYLIGHT PARKING WILL BE AVAILABLE IN ENGLISH HERITAGE CAR PARK.
MANY PEOPLE ARE QUESTIONING WHETHER OPEN ACCESS CEREMONIES WILL BE AFFECTED?
DISABILITY ACCESS OUTSIDE NORMAL VISITING HOURS ARE ALSO A CONCERN.
DEADLINE FOR OBJECTIONS IS NOVEMBER 6TH 2009 - SEND ALL CORRESPONDENCE AND OBJECTIONS ETC TO MR PETER RIDAL, HALCROW GROUP LTD, BURDEROP PARK, SWINDON SN4 0QD or sent by email to
[email protected], ALL COMMENTS WILL BE PASSED TO WILTSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.
TRO Map is below, courtesy of Halcrow
Yorkshire Dales National Park applied for similar TRO which was overturned at a Judical Review -
the precident applies equally to this case.
PLANNING INQUIRIES - TRO DOCS & INFO CONTACT
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EXAMPLE COMMENTS & OBJECTIONS TO TRO.
What provision have you made regarding the attendance of pilgrims ie druids, pagans etc to attend the EH authorised free access to the Stones?
Health & Safety:
How will you address the problem of pilgrims arriving before dawn who need to park and rest and also likewise afterwards before driving often long distances home - I live in Devon for instance? Others arrive from Germany and Holland regularly?
Considering usually we arrive in the dark of the previous day, and leave sometime during the day after the dawn ceremony, how will that work if we are all in the same car park with tourists arriving and noise preventing any rest?
The reverse is true for sunset ceremonies of course.
EXAMPLE COMMENTS & OBJECTIONS TO VISITOR CENTRE
Unable to locate on planning website the following:
1. Disability access assessment
2. Equality impact assessment
Because of the long distance from the Visitor Centre to the Stones, many people are querying the facilities provision after closure of the normal visiting period -
A. If you arrive in the dark hours, is there provision for the transit unit to be available? The distance is 2km from the Visitor Centre to the Stones.
B Any lighting, seating, toilets disabled and otherwise?
C A fire pit for people to keep warm and shelter of any kind near the Stones or at the Visitor Centre? Presently its a short distance from the drove Byway 12 to the tunnel, and people can be dropped at the entrance in bad weather. No shade is available either to/from etc
TRO MAP BELOW RELATES TO THE DROVES
& BYWAYS AFFECTED
The "Road" concerned is marked in RED (to be Grassed over)and BLUE (to remain as access) on the map below. The TRACK/DROVE/BOAT's are marked in BROWN. Most of our objections have been AGAINST the permanent stopping up of the TRACK/DROVE/BOAT's depriving the public of those amenitys.